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		<title>By: Yakini</title>
		<link>http://www.mochamomma.com/2007/08/02/inclusion-exclusion/comment-page-1/#comment-42688</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make GREAT points. I think that mom bloggers (of older children) are JUST as valuable as mom bloggers of younger kids. I enjoy reading both sets of blogs, in fact, because i know eventually i&#039;ll be needing/relying on moms with kids in these age ranges. For now, I think its more &quot;fun&quot; to read bloggers with kids who are in the same age range of my baby, simply for the purpose of hearing like stories/experiences. But that doesnt detract from the importance of the other type of mom blogger.

That story of the African-American mom coming up to the school for her daughter really struck me. It&#039;s sooo true that we are too quickly (mis)judged, at a glance, and totally misperceived! It&#039;s wonderful that you said something so simple, yet sweet and gentle, to that mom, as im sure she really appreciated feeling supported in that way.

Great post!

@ SweetWifey on Twitter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make GREAT points. I think that mom bloggers (of older children) are JUST as valuable as mom bloggers of younger kids. I enjoy reading both sets of blogs, in fact, because i know eventually i&#8217;ll be needing/relying on moms with kids in these age ranges. For now, I think its more &#8220;fun&#8221; to read bloggers with kids who are in the same age range of my baby, simply for the purpose of hearing like stories/experiences. But that doesnt detract from the importance of the other type of mom blogger.</p>
<p>That story of the African-American mom coming up to the school for her daughter really struck me. It&#8217;s sooo true that we are too quickly (mis)judged, at a glance, and totally misperceived! It&#8217;s wonderful that you said something so simple, yet sweet and gentle, to that mom, as im sure she really appreciated feeling supported in that way.</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
<p>@ SweetWifey on Twitter</p>
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		<title>By: Zoey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i enjoyed the read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i enjoyed the read</p>
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		<title>By: Mocha Momma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mocha Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz - From what the mother told me, she couldn&#039;t afford the ambulance, ER, doctor costs. Understandable, huh? 

Your platitude is most correct and I hate that anyone ends up judging. I&#039;m sorry for the assumptions people make and I can only try to stop myself from making those mistakes. May you be judged for your thoughts and heartfelt actions only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz &#8211; From what the mother told me, she couldn&#8217;t afford the ambulance, ER, doctor costs. Understandable, huh? </p>
<p>Your platitude is most correct and I hate that anyone ends up judging. I&#8217;m sorry for the assumptions people make and I can only try to stop myself from making those mistakes. May you be judged for your thoughts and heartfelt actions only.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kelly - Great, thoughtful post &amp; great, thoughtful comments, as well.  I&#039;ve gotten a lot out of them.  I know it&#039;s not the same thing, but I&#039;m fat.  Not fat in the &quot;get your friends to say you&#039;re not&quot; fat, but actually fat. I get judged about it everyday and in almost every situation. People assume I&#039;m stupid and lazy and they also usually assume I&#039;m poor.  

(Pardon the Platitude) Judging sucks. 

That aside, I do have a question about your story.  Why didn&#039;t she want her daughter to go to the hospital??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kelly &#8211; Great, thoughtful post &amp; great, thoughtful comments, as well.  I&#8217;ve gotten a lot out of them.  I know it&#8217;s not the same thing, but I&#8217;m fat.  Not fat in the &#8220;get your friends to say you&#8217;re not&#8221; fat, but actually fat. I get judged about it everyday and in almost every situation. People assume I&#8217;m stupid and lazy and they also usually assume I&#8217;m poor.  </p>
<p>(Pardon the Platitude) Judging sucks. </p>
<p>That aside, I do have a question about your story.  Why didn&#8217;t she want her daughter to go to the hospital??</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly - your post moved me... I never thought of these sorts of judgments in the manner in which you presented it... and what a wake up call!  I never thought of inclusion &amp; exclusion until NOW - and I thank you for you opened my eyes and heart to this terrible behaviour ... which I have been found guilty of at times.

Thank you.  That is all I can say. Thank you.

&quot;Be the change you want to see in the world.&quot; 
-- Mohandas Gandhi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly &#8211; your post moved me&#8230; I never thought of these sorts of judgments in the manner in which you presented it&#8230; and what a wake up call!  I never thought of inclusion &amp; exclusion until NOW &#8211; and I thank you for you opened my eyes and heart to this terrible behaviour &#8230; which I have been found guilty of at times.</p>
<p>Thank you.  That is all I can say. Thank you.</p>
<p>&#8220;Be the change you want to see in the world.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Mohandas Gandhi.</p>
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		<title>By: Tere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reaching out to say &quot;great post&quot; - you&#039;re covering issues that are near and dear to me, and I suspect that our paths will be crossing soon via BlogRhet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reaching out to say &#8220;great post&#8221; &#8211; you&#8217;re covering issues that are near and dear to me, and I suspect that our paths will be crossing soon via BlogRhet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dayna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dayna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to the blog world, I just started mine recently.  I linked to your post from Neil&#039;s, whom I also just started reading.  This was an amazingly good post.  Very thought provoking.  

I am a white woman who taught in an all black school. Being the minority not only on campus, but in the community where I worked, I think I learned a lot.  I can remember running off campus to run to the bank and being the only white person there.  I felt slightly uncomfortable, not in any way unsafe, but like people were staring at me, wondering what I was doing there. I felt a little like I was intruding - on a bank - how lame is that?

 I can remember wondering if this is what it is like to be a minority in a majority setting. I do have to say, I think I gained a whole new understanding of race, and sterotypes, and prejudice.  I can remember being horrified by the way the principal spoke of the students and their families. especially out of the earshot of anyone who wasn&#039;t white. She would have been judging that Mom at your school for the way she was dressed, she would have made comments.  

Until I taught there, I thought people who spoke of racism and the day to day difficulties of being a minority as using excuses.  Never again.  I totally get it now. I totally get the undercurrent of disrespect, and prejudgement that minorities deal with.  My nephew is Hispanic, and even though he&#039;s four, my sister worries about it all the time.  She&#039;s right, it will have to be a real concern for his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to the blog world, I just started mine recently.  I linked to your post from Neil&#8217;s, whom I also just started reading.  This was an amazingly good post.  Very thought provoking.  </p>
<p>I am a white woman who taught in an all black school. Being the minority not only on campus, but in the community where I worked, I think I learned a lot.  I can remember running off campus to run to the bank and being the only white person there.  I felt slightly uncomfortable, not in any way unsafe, but like people were staring at me, wondering what I was doing there. I felt a little like I was intruding &#8211; on a bank &#8211; how lame is that?</p>
<p> I can remember wondering if this is what it is like to be a minority in a majority setting. I do have to say, I think I gained a whole new understanding of race, and sterotypes, and prejudice.  I can remember being horrified by the way the principal spoke of the students and their families. especially out of the earshot of anyone who wasn&#8217;t white. She would have been judging that Mom at your school for the way she was dressed, she would have made comments.  </p>
<p>Until I taught there, I thought people who spoke of racism and the day to day difficulties of being a minority as using excuses.  Never again.  I totally get it now. I totally get the undercurrent of disrespect, and prejudgement that minorities deal with.  My nephew is Hispanic, and even though he&#8217;s four, my sister worries about it all the time.  She&#8217;s right, it will have to be a real concern for his life.</p>
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		<title>By: GraceD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GraceD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I be the Filipina Fussy?  I&#039;m sure Mrs. Kennedy won&#039;t mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I be the Filipina Fussy?  I&#8217;m sure Mrs. Kennedy won&#8217;t mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is an excellent reminder for all of us to do better.

I like your notion of Practice Black Person. In my life I have been Practice Jewish Person and even Practice Female Person. When people say (and they have) ignorant things my knee-jerk instinct is to get snarky, but it&#039;s better to gently correct and try to educate. I applaud you for doing this beautifully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is an excellent reminder for all of us to do better.</p>
<p>I like your notion of Practice Black Person. In my life I have been Practice Jewish Person and even Practice Female Person. When people say (and they have) ignorant things my knee-jerk instinct is to get snarky, but it&#8217;s better to gently correct and try to educate. I applaud you for doing this beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in an industry immersed in diversity.  I&#039;m surrounded by people of all colors and nationalities and I &lt;i&gt;love it&lt;/i&gt;.  I&#039;ve dispatched an airplane flown by a female Japanese captain.  A Persian captain.  Flown on an airplane piloted by a gay man.  I&#039;ve dispatched airplanes from here to there with an all female flight and cabin crew (which is awesome by the way). And I&#039;ve told a black man where he could go (from St. Louis to Pittsburgh at thirty three thousand feet thankyouverymuch).  Are the majority of pilots white males?  Sure...but not for long.

Is race the first thing I see when looking at a person?  Sure.  But it&#039;s taken for what it is (the same way I&#039;d notice if the person am looking at is a guy or a girl) and I make no assumptions as a result.  I could very well have pictured a white woman in your story, Kelly--or even a Pakistani woman.

I&#039;ll admit to stereotyping.  I tend to go for the &quot;positive&quot; stereotyping (is that even possible?) rather than the negative as a general rule.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;Really, your from India?  Oh! Can you teach me how to fold a samosa?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  I&#039;ll admit to stereotyping based on appearance--not race.  Wearing too tight and too short shorts and a tube top (no matter what that person&#039;s race)?  I&#039;m guessing that your not a nun.

Lastly, what qualifies one as a mommyblogger?  And do I have something to worry about because I&#039;m a mom and I also blog... occasionally about my kids?  Why is there a general hostility to mommybloggers?

As always, I leave here thought provoked.  And that&#039;s a dangerous thing at nearly 11 at night.

Good night! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in an industry immersed in diversity.  I&#8217;m surrounded by people of all colors and nationalities and I <i>love it</i>.  I&#8217;ve dispatched an airplane flown by a female Japanese captain.  A Persian captain.  Flown on an airplane piloted by a gay man.  I&#8217;ve dispatched airplanes from here to there with an all female flight and cabin crew (which is awesome by the way). And I&#8217;ve told a black man where he could go (from St. Louis to Pittsburgh at thirty three thousand feet thankyouverymuch).  Are the majority of pilots white males?  Sure&#8230;but not for long.</p>
<p>Is race the first thing I see when looking at a person?  Sure.  But it&#8217;s taken for what it is (the same way I&#8217;d notice if the person am looking at is a guy or a girl) and I make no assumptions as a result.  I could very well have pictured a white woman in your story, Kelly&#8211;or even a Pakistani woman.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit to stereotyping.  I tend to go for the &#8220;positive&#8221; stereotyping (is that even possible?) rather than the negative as a general rule.  <i>&#8220;Really, your from India?  Oh! Can you teach me how to fold a samosa?&#8221;</i>  I&#8217;ll admit to stereotyping based on appearance&#8211;not race.  Wearing too tight and too short shorts and a tube top (no matter what that person&#8217;s race)?  I&#8217;m guessing that your not a nun.</p>
<p>Lastly, what qualifies one as a mommyblogger?  And do I have something to worry about because I&#8217;m a mom and I also blog&#8230; occasionally about my kids?  Why is there a general hostility to mommybloggers?</p>
<p>As always, I leave here thought provoked.  And that&#8217;s a dangerous thing at nearly 11 at night.</p>
<p>Good night! <img src='http://www.mochamomma.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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