Yesterday was a long day. The kind of long day that results in collapsing on the couch into the arms of The Cuban. If you know about that sort of thing.
I tried desperately today to find the strength to re-cap it to give some sort of an update. Luckily, I write everything down. It’s why I blog. I’m constantly writing and I keep a Journal of Injustices (that’s just the working title) so that while talking to the five, FIVE, customer service representatives from Bank of America I could keep track of everything. That was, until I started live tweeting my experience. Whenever anyone answered the phone to deal with me I opened with the same thing:
I’m in a bad mood and you’re the unlucky person who’s going to get it today and I will try not to cuss or yell, but my patience is wearing thin, okay? Are you ready?
Amazingly, each of them said they were. I still have my doubts, though.
I explained that last week on November 2 I had spoken to Melissa who said that I could call back after 5 days and get the $605.80 overage I paid them in forced lender insurance because I really needed that money back. Otherwise, she told me, they would keep it in escrow. Unless I asked for it back. So, when I called to ask for it back I kept getting shuffled to different people.
First, it was Rafaella who answered the call at 9:36 am and promptly transferred me to Ellen at 9:39 am who gave me the number for Home Retention because, she said, I had called the wrong number. The same wrong number from Melissa from last week. (And I had also spoken to Deborah/Debra who was the rudest person EVER and seemed to enjoy being hurtful.) After Ellen, I got Darren at 9:49 am and it was at this point that I told him I was going to live-tweet this. He gave me to Lawrence Jackson, a supervisor who called himself a Team Manager.
Between each call I listened to the same two things repeated over and over.
Please hold.
Please wait.
By the time Lawrence picked up I had my speech down pat.
Is this Kelly?
Yes, this is.
Kelly, how are you today?
Lawrence, I’m pissed off and it’s going to end with you, ok? So I’ve told my story three times already and I’ve told it to Rafaella and Ellen and Darren. Do you have notes there at what you’re looking at so you know what I’m talking about?
Uh, no ma’am. There’s no notes here.
Great. Well, now you’ve just pushed me over the edge. Lawrence, what’s your last name?
Jackson.
Great. Lawrence Jackson. Just so you know, I’m live-tweeting that. I hope you know what that means. And everything you say will go out to my 6,000 followers, many of whom will re-tweet it. Here’s the same story I’ve just told FOUR OTHER TIMES AND STILL YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON. Are you ready? I’m only saying this once more.
So, I recounted everything to him and in the end he said he needed to back up and talk to Melissa from last week. So, for 48 minutes and 2 seconds I spent time on the phone without getting any answers. So I kept going back to Twitter and realized that, even after trying to speak directly to BofA’s Twitter help team, they tend to respond back to people who are rude. One of ones I read simply said “u suck” so I included that in my response to them, asking if I were to just tell them that they “suck” would they respond to me quicker.
I have a few theories why they finally got with me via Twitter and it’s not really my 6,000 followers. I think it’s because Jenny (The Bloggess) and (Shauna) Gluten Free Girl who both have MASSIVE followers started pointing people in my direction. People start to follow stuff like that and one of them that mentioned me noted that I was a blogger. Not for nothing, but bloggers tend to stick together to help each other out (and that really mushy post is for another time, but I have to say that more blogger friends have reached out to me than any other category in my life). Often, I feel like an island in my family and most people depend on me for stuff.
Perhaps the most irritating about having to write this out and blog it and tweet it is that I felt like, in order to be heard by my own bank, I had no other choice. Why you gotta be like that, Big Banks? Indeed, you do suck for forcing my hand like this.
My kids called me to see if I was okay. Mason never mentioned it but asked if he could pray for me and sent the greatest message he’s ever sent me: In all my life in knowing you, being raised by you, and learning from you, I learned to believe that ‘You can keep going long after you can’t’. That’s the one strong trait that I hope I got from you mom.” Mallory called me, too, to see what she could do to help me. (Memo to all my kids: momma’s going to be okay. Stop fretting.) (But maybe Christmas will be really sparse this year, okay?) (Maybe we could just do homemade gifts this year?)
Bank of America? For making my kids scared for me I have to believe that you’re some kind of special jerks. For illegally placing insurance on me, pulling that fraud on me,using terrorist tactics on me and making me go through this I have got to tell you – there is a reserved corner of hell for you where you’re on eternal hold with an automatic phone service.
It took one final person, Elvira, to finally make things start moving for me. She wouldn’t say that she was taking off fees for last month’s mortgage for me, but I did end up not having to pay the extra $479.84 they originally tacked on and that was a small piece of justice. I kept asking if she was taking it off, but she never confirmed that and failed to send it to me in writing. That right there is still some bad customer service.
People shouldn’t have to do this in order to be heard. I have a plan in place and will climb out of this. I’m going to get that book published and make enough money to get out of this and take all my money to the credit union I use for everything other than my mortgage. And I will sign every petition against Bank of America. And I will continue to support and defend Occupy Wall Street. And my children will be the ones who stick to local banking and goods and services.
We all deserve so much better than the crap being pulled on us from big banking institutions who are repossessing some 800,000 American homes this year after they got their bailout money.
We’re better than this. I really want to believe that. For my children, I have to so that I don’t give up entirely.
“Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.” - Frederick Douglass


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Wow. This is so insane… and thank god we have twitter and blogging and facebook now to get out real stories like this right when they happen. It’s sad that we have to live tweet and blog in order to get things done, and it makes me even sadder to think of all the other people, particularly elderly people, who aren’t on social media and can’t use it as a tool in their arsenal.
Best of luck to you.
This story is making me so angry, I’m crying. And not just because I’m very fragile this week. Everything about this sucks.
Good golly, I’m at a loss of words with this. It’s sad really that taking to social media seems to get some sort of results. I’ve done it myself because it’s the only thing that worked. All I can really say is that I hope everything works out in the end.
Seriously Kelly, that you are keeping your crap together enough to follow the breadcrumbs to a solution is truly heroic. This is head-exploding stuff, no doubt about it. For what it’s worth, I totally support you. I wish I could make you dinner after a day like that.
I’m so glad you got some kind of result out of them, Kelly. Fucking banks. I don’t use them, and I hope to GOD my mortgage is never sold to a bank. One thing about credit unions, I tried to do my mortgage through them but many of them, though they advertise mortgages, don’t do mortgages themselves but use other companies who DAMN IT use big banks. But I know that there are ways not to have your mortgage with one of these fuckers (sorry, there is not a better word), and I will fight to keep my mortgage off of their books and their greedy, stealing hands off of my money.
So sorry you’re going through this. Hang tough, girl.
Give ‘em hell Kelly!
go get them Kelly–I have cancelled my BoA credit card (it was my kids Upromise card) because they suck and will never use them again.
Keep after them everyday–get it in writing–send letters to them certified in writing–you will need all that documentation to take them on.
Total Fucktards.
love you…hugs to you..
The constant handing off and run-around that happens with B of A is insane. Our banking is done through them, and when I have issues, it’s mind-numbing all the crap I have to go through.
You’re strong. You can do this.
Jerks and worse words for the bureaucracy that breeds injustice.
Keep at it. I love what Mason wrote to you. Made me tear up.
You are strong and can do, Kelly
Your whole experience with BofA (aka Countrywide….yeah. I said it) is disgusting. It’s making me want to move my little penance of an account to another bank…most likely TD Bank or a nationwide-based credit union. And when I do find a bank and close out my account, I will be sure to point them in this direction for a reason. I may not be a high net-worth client, but I do have a choice.
Robin, you don’t even need a nationwide credit union. Credit unions do shared branching, so if your credit union isn’t in a certain area, you can go to another one that participates in shared branching. We have never had a problem getting access to our money since we stopped using banks and switched to credit unions over five years ago. Just sayin’.
Sounds like a nightmare for you. I bet they’re deliberately complicated matters and adding bureaucracy to try and dissaude you. Don’t let ‘em.
I had been thinking about moving my account from B of A for awhile since the local credit union pays 2.5% interest on checking accounts. After reading your blog post and also getting unreliable information from their 800 number I finally did it last week. Will still keep the credit card since its the one that we have had for the longest time….but I do pay it off every month so they at least don’t get any interest paid to them.
Also love what Mason said. Keep strong Kelly!
BoA sent me a credit card several years ago that I didn’t apply for – someone submitted a form with my name/address and a FAKE SSN, and they still sent me a card. With an $11K limit. I could have screwed them over and there would have been nothing they could do.
Stories like yours almost makes me wish I had.
As a business owner with no less than 6 checking accounts who has had to deal with 3 other banks in the past 7 years, they’ve offered me the best customer service and rates. This surprises me to no end. But I will NOT disagree that their mortgage department was formed in a corner office in Hell… Screwing with your finances is bad enough, but this time of year, it’s devastating.
My husband and I have been talking about black and white issues. For instance, you see a child being a abused, you stop it and call police. There’s no gray area there. When we talk about the banks and Occupy Wall Street, we see no gray area either. What they are doing is wrong and sickening. I think social media is one of the best ways to fight them. It makes stuff happen. It allows to scream injustice from the tops of our lungs and they can’t hide from it. You are going to win this.
This is why all of my money is under my mattress. All $10 of it.
You are kicking ass and taking names. Keep your head up. Not only are you going to come out on top, you are raising awareness about one of the most important issues of our time. I am not usually an “everything happens for a reason” person, but I think that you are turning what could be an isolated incident into a response with a broader purpose. Keep fighting. And PLEASE keep broadcasting it, too.
- Sarah
BTW, I blogged about this today:
http://bit.ly/uujsHx
- Sarah
This makes me SO ANGRY.
More angry than the troll people my ex is sending after me.
More angry than the £25 fee the bank charged me for going over my credit limit by £0.02 (YOU READ THAT RIGHT) for ONE day.
More angry than RUNNING OUT OF CHEESE.
How can they justify what they do to people. At the end of the day, WE ARE ALL JUST PEOPLE TRYING TO LIVE OUR LIVES THE BEST WE CAN.
They disgust me.
And you? Are wonderful.
So there.
I missed all this.
Wow, I have had similar experiences with the banks. THEY ARE SOOOO BAD.
I have PTSD from dealing with Citibank. I never thought to live tweet it. That’s genius.
Hang in there. It’s going to be OK. I got a HAMP in the end. I don’t know if anyone can get them anymore.
But believe me: They ARE after our houses. What they do *cannot* be incompetence. I swear they were out to get my house. I *think* I won that round. I think I can keep my house. I cannot believe what you went through.
Occupy Wall Street. Seriously, EVERY ONE OF US is vulnerable. There really IS a 99%. Today it might not be you, but tomorrow. You don’t know.
Thanks for fighting. Thanks for letting us all know about this. We need to speak out. Thank you.
wow, you’ve had a shitty week. ::hugs::
My mortgage is also with them because they bought someone. Last month they sent me a letter saying they had sold my mortgage to “Shady Services”. “Shady Services” did not return my call. Three weeks later BofA sent another letter saying that the load had not actually been sold and if I had sent money, call this number.
I don’t know what happened, and I fortunately didn’t get burned, but if the first letter was real then BofA doesn’t even know what it owns.
So many kinds of terrible. I’m thinking good thoughts for you.
There is no customer service from large institutions. They simply do not care. It frustrates me and angers me and I want, desperately, to believe that the occupy movement will continue and grow and be a force of change.
Wow. And Kelly, just imagine if you WEREN’T a blogger live-tweeting this experience. Would anything have happened ever??
I can’t believe you have to go through this. What a nightmare.